r602 reads ok this is what i cant understand that is the only thing i can find gone in the power supply is the opto for sure,the tn6q04 ic i am not sure about but with nothing else being bad in the power supply makes me wonder if it has gone or not the only thing that made me thinck it has gone is because the two outside legs on the ic read straight across on my ohmmeter but without any specs on this ic i dont know if that is normal or not,anyway i have found c201 and will check that out.thanks for your info sorry about badgering on about this tv but i hate being beaten by it