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Equipment Repairs => LCD TV forum => Topic started by: bigtom on May 14, 2016,20:23:18

Title: 17PW20v1
Post by: bigtom on May 14, 2016,20:23:18
Hi 
This is just an account of my protracted  tussle with a few  of these power supplies.These units had the usual treatment of  blanket replacement of all suspect electrolytic capacitors ,but to no avail. The problem was  endlessly trying to start   but failing to do so, the  24 volt supply would reach 18 volts or so and then fall away again. A logical approach was  called for to get to the root of this. Where does one begin. Just to say that these power supplies will work outside of the TV with only the mains lead connected .First  I made up some harness which consisted of a 3volt battery supply connected to pin 6 of  PL803 with a switch,second a two lead connector with a switch connected to PL811. I  decided at this stage to supply VCC1 and VCC2 with an independent 12 volt supply. Before connecting this supply I  cut the connection from the standby supply to  IC828 where they are normally supplied from.When the  psu was connected up  there was a stable 24volt supply also  a PFC of 390 volts, so the fault had to lie with the standby supply. So what to do next,a  lot of time spent examining  the outputs 3.3 volt, 5volt ,12.2volt outputs,and the feedback loop via the optocoupler  IC801 .Then I realized that  that the standby supply was being shut down as if the standby switch connected to PL811 was closed. Studying the circut more closely showed that  Q802 has the same effect .Q802 is in turn controlled by  three other transistors,Q831 which monitors the 12.2 line viaSW1,   Q833 AND Q834 which monitor the 5volt and 24 volt outputs. If the 24volt  or the 5volt supplies which are potted down  are missing from the bases of  Q833 or Q834,it will cause  Q802 to switch on and shut down the standby supply via SW2. To cut a long story short the voltage was missing from the base ofQ833. The cause being D854  the 12 volt zener diode open circut. Replacing the diode restored normality  .Strange to say the other two P S U s had exactly the same  fault. Ihave never read of that particular fault previously ,perhaps  it is the cause  of a lot of scrapped power supplies . BIGTOM
Title: Re: 17PW20v1
Post by: kennyc on May 15, 2016,04:50:28
Hallo Bigtom,you say you have changed all the electolytics but dont mention the 2 blue caps in the top left of the board . Think they are 15nf and are pale blue . If you take them out you can usually feel if there is a bump on them
Title: Re: 17PW20v1
Post by: bigtom on May 16, 2016,16:30:55
Hi
 Yes  the two  15 nf  capacitors were changed also .The suspect electrolytic capacitors were changed more in hope  than in expectation . They were checked  for E S R  and capacitance   just to be sure. In my view  capacitor failure  happens but is  overstated . A suck it and see approach to fault finding is always a second best  approach .  BIGTOM