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Equipment Repairs => LCD TV forum => Topic started by: bonesy on May 04, 2017,07:37:39
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So a punter rolls up late yesterday afternoon with a late cheapish Panasonic LCD TV.The pictures odd,looks like a spiders web!I'll put it on,but I bet your screens broken.NO,NO,No way it can be broken,no ones touched it.
Sure enough just off center,impact mark,like a Biro point,with lines radiating away from it.
Yep,as I thought,impact damage,caused by something hitting the screen,NO,No way that's happened,working fine Saturday night until around 11.30,broken at 1.30 pm Sunday when I switched it on!
Well all I can tell you is with 43 yrs of TV repairing,someone has broken your TV,do you have any young children at all that's the most common cause of LCD screen breakage,NO,NO, both my boy's are 19 &22,they were out Saturday night,it was one of them switched it on Sunday & told me it was faulty.
Well unless you've got a Ghost,may be hoovering Sunday morning someone has court the screen with Hoover handle & not noticed,then my best guess would be someone stumbled into it early hours Sunday morning!
Hmmmm,but,but they'd tell me,wouldn't they?
Oh well,suppose I've got to buy a new one,what should I buy?other than a Panasonic,cos I'm not having another one of their's after this little fiasco :03: :03:
What can you say,but laugh,why ask the expert in the first place.I would have loved to had been a fly on the wall in that house Saturday night,Sunday morning to see what had happened,lots of beer & shots me thinks.
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Hi Bonesy,
Had a Sony KDL40R553C in the other day, Son had given it to his dad saying it just wanted a RCU, stand and P/S.
Had some doubts but the screen looked OK so got the PS for a tenner from Ebay, as couldn't check it otherwise. Screen duff of course - Families - Chris.
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hey bonsey i had one few weeks ago it was a hitachi 42 inch, blue light flashing so went and picked up, got it back to the bench, opened it up just the one cap swollen but a couple low value, replaced them turn the tv on cracked screen, thought shit, is this my fault messaged the woman told her the bad news, she said how's that happened, told her when i transport tv i use a quilt cover screen facing up , she had a couple of kids and looked like it been stored had paint on the back, she weren't to bothered in the end told me to keep it for spares, but could have been a lot worse. do you do repairs in the home or take them back to the shop cheers
shaun
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Tbh,I work from a shop owned by my best mate,so I get free work space,he gets shop boy.I use to do a lot of field service,tune ins,but they've tailed right off now.Customers bring their stuff to us,I will go out & pick up,but tell them there will be C&D charge for this.Only ever had two in with broken screens,luckily spotted them as they came through the door,not broken in transit,but broken by kids that hadn't owned up at the time.
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Best one used to be with the videos when you took the top of and the kids little toy was inside . You could almost hear the screams as the little kid got battered for costing his parents £40 as you walked away from the front door
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just be careful with the samsung 43 inches they have internal shorts which cracks the screen, which make you think the screen has had an impacted damage, cheers
shaun
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I also remember the older VCR's like Fergie 3v29 & Hitachi 8000,when rewind/fast forward packed up,first thing the man of the house would do,drop the top loading cassette door off & spray,that well known penetrating oil all over everything including heads & drum.Once had a 3v29,fault tape not loading,couldn't even get cassette housing to close,cause fish & chips rammed in by child,lovely,lol.
One day I'll write that book about all the loons I've dealt with over 40 years,some very funny,some should have been locked up.
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Hi Bonesy,
Just had a Sony RDR-VX410 in where cust had sprayed your fave fluid because the loading belt was slipping - He took the top off and sprayed evenly from above.
Spent a while attempting a clean up - No dice.
Think that fluid should only be available on prescription where folks have to wear a badge so we can see 'em coming - Chris.
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I had one guy pulling one out the car..... I told him push it back, likewise this looked like a spiders web originating from a 'biro' impact.
I repaired a telly once, the guy put it in his car, guess what? His wife got out the front passenger seat, shoved the seat back and then..... CRACK, the LCD screen looked like a spiders web from one of the corners, the impact here was just a small fragment of corner of the screen shattered, as well as a busted trim..... my she was a big lady, a discus thrower if you ask me.
And dig this one in the day's of CRT's..... Tommy just loaded a 22" Bush in his work van on the main road, after chatting away to a passer by he got in the van leaving the van door ajar..... "HOY, Tommy" I shouted 'ZOOM' off he went at speed, maybe about 10 yards or so the telly comes flying out crashes onto the road in many pieces - thank God it was a rental and we had loan sets!
Dave
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keep the stories coming fella's loved to hear how it was years ago thanks for sharing
shaun
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Just got a 55in LG from the dump. No pic so gingerly removed screen. For some reason couldnt get the strips to light with my pwr supply so scraped and checked every one. There was no duff one so I gingerly lifted and replaced the screen without a hitch. I replaced the metal surround and as I tightened the final screw, heard a 'ching' and the screen cracked though strangely enough no spider web effect as the crack didnt reach either edge. So back to the dump with it later. Must have been a PSU fault I suppose.
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we're not aloud to take tvs from our tip anymore, you can get good spare parts from there, as well cheers
shaun :03:
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Remember doing one a while ago - Was a CCFL 32 inch jobby where the top tabs were suspect. Padded it out with flexible carpet underfelt stuff from the local tip - Terrific, job done.
On replacing the surround - No problems at all, but next day noticed a crack from a corner that had developed overnight as I hadn't quite got the screen in right.
Learned a bit from that one - Chris.
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I watched a customer load up a 37" LG some time back into boot of car,now luckily he'd seen it working on bench.Loaded in laying on back on top of shopping,including tins of dog food all laying loose in back.I advised putting set on back seat,but no,picking kids up so no go.Following day brings setback ,no picture,yep broken screen caused by tins of dog food,thought I'd give him a refund,lol ,lol,silly man.
What I call a Disney thought process,kept telling me it's under warranty.Very hard at times not to be rude,you have to find different scenarios,like your cars gets serviced as agreed,costs £150 for service,then you complain that second gear is noisy,garage man is not going to fit a free gear box for you.
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Happens all the time, fixed a set where the customer laid it screen down on the mains plug. Didn't actually break the screen but the scratches were a bit off putting. Didn't offer a refund, just smiled after he'd gone again as I didn't load it into his motor - Chris.
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I still get em' today, do you?
Picture valves gone, sound valves gone, it's just a fuse or it wants a new resistor, I've heard that a time or two, and now the public has caught on...... the bulbs gone inside!
Another one for ya, many years ago I repaired a Sonab hi-fi, the speaker looks like a stool with the grill at the top, distorted and rattles on one channel the man said....... Not surprised, a dead mouse was wedged between the bass driver cone and it's casing. The chap said he thought he saw the cat chase something but wasn't sure, it'd entered via the bottom where the port opening is underneath.
Dave
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Don't you just love the ones who bring in their TV, explain their fault and then tell you "I've researched this on the internet. It's only a capacitor".
Too bad that it's a relatively new Samsung LED TV and they've got data that applies to a 12 year old Samsung LCD. Bruce
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Hi Dave,yes my current little favorite is half term,phone rings off the hook for broken screens,but a lot aren't totally broken it's just the inside bit,can't you glue it?Your Sonab speakers are collectors Items today,in good condition can fetch close to £1k,the base drivers were made by Philips & the foam surrounds break up,but you can buy modern rubber replacements.The units do produce a very nice sound,you'll see them regularly on e-bay in various states.Old British speakers Tannoy's very old Wharfdales,Goodmans,Leak,can fetch good money.
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Hi Bruce,yep good old internet,plus of course on "you tube" the Americans film their 8yr old fixing the TV just to show how cheap & easy TV repairs are. :33:
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Not TV related,but yesterday a couple of old folks came in, bright red HP laptop,screens just white she said. Ok lets have a look,powered up went white,went dead,no power left in battery.So ejected battery on counter,walked towards work bench,she said to her other half"whats he doing,he's took battery out,hows it gonna work,does he know what he's doing?
I plugged in DC power unit,pressed power switch away it went,worked perfect,plugged battery back in started charging.Then they always ask,WHY?I always say "Who knows,who cares,but 9 times out of 10 it cures odd faults,they give you that doubting look followed by"how much you charging me for that"
I'm sometimes tempted to say at least £100,but never do,just say your welcome we are here to help,The satisfaction is knowing that although I don't know what I'm doing I know a hell of a lot more than they do.
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@bonesy
Funny you mentioned speakers foam surround.... I've had that too leaving the cone loose, in fact one or two in my speaker spares succumbed, they were perfect when I packed them.
Seen loads of cassette and video belts turn to gulp leaving a black sticky mess all over the show, now that is real fun to clean up, you just can't shift the devil.
Dave
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I repaired a nice JVC turntable,a while back for a mate,nice bt of kit for a Japanese turntable,but the belt had turned to toffee on the rim of T/T & motor pulley took lots of scrubbing to get it off.
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We did do JVC's but can't remember models, the place were I worked we were Philips, Sony and Sanyo agents.
One of the atrocious units were Amstrad, remember when their 'separates' hi-fi came out, they were made in glorified biscuit tins.... very wobbly the dials had four or five festoon lamps in I was forever changing as well as the TIP41/42 output pair.... they did a lethal telly think it was a 18" in a galvanised steel 'wrapper' with some kind of brown painted veneer, now that was wobbly as hell .... this was when Alan Suger ventured into hi-fi.
Philips turntables were a pain in the rear, nothing but thin springs as levers, car 8 tracks with their endless tape were the 'in thing' that always wanted the graphite cleaning up.
Davy
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Hi Davy,AVS1600 & AVS2000 I'll never ever forget them,I worked for the CO-OP group,we sold thousands of them,we repaired thousands of them.The install man use to have so many faulty out the box,even the turntables could be faulty from new. :33:
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AVS1600 & AVS2000 were Fidelity, yes Co-op sold a lot of Fidelity tackle I worked there for a while, they sold loads of Rad series of radio's, Rad 15, Rad 28 etc, come think Bush was another good seller.
It was at the Co-op where the telly came flying out the van.
Dave
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hi Davy,just remembered,in the loft I got an Amstrad hifi :s_laugh: separates amp a 2000mk II think.Sound wise,not bad,but every switch / control crackles or thumps.Wonder if it still works.Was a hand me down from my best mate,he upgraded to a Pioneer or Marrantz jobby & I had his old Amstrad.He was earning around £90 a week I was apprenticed on £25,Still am some weeks lol.
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I've worked on Marrantz, I wasn't impressed, maybe the build I dunno, I also thought, 'No, not another one', nothing wrong with the sound mind, Pioneer & JVC made some good equipment including turntables, I enjoyed working on them.
Just trying think of that BW Decca telly in my training day, I seemed think it was the EHT reccy, it had a big metal domed anode cap, so did the line come think and a metal chassis..... Geez, you instigated the smallest of arc round there and let fly fast, it was like ferocious greased lightening taking over, only way to stop it was to yank the plug..... the first time it happened to me I didn't know what the hell to do, it put the fear of God in mi', it put the fear of God in everyone, goading one another to set it off, after second or third attempt I was promoted...... to the chief settarofferra - No elf n safety in them day's.
Transistor tellies wouldn't have taken that punishment, this devil would arc, arc and arc and still work producing a nice crisp picture for it's day.
Dave
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My first colour TV ,when I left home was a Decca Bradford,valve,transistor TV ran it for around three years,made it out of lots of scrap ones,had a slightly green tinge to the picture due to old tube,never went wrong.When I was the apprentice,one of my jobs was keeping our workshop clean & tidy.One day
I was sweeping the floor,behind me on the soak test bench was a Bush B&W set,that had just had a new LOPTX fitted,it was running minus it's metal covers,I bent over to sweep out under the bench behind,both valve top caps bit my bum & burnt two very deep holes in my bum,bloody sore for weeks.
Oh & never discharge EHT with screw drivers,if the sets still on!Never did that again one long Philips screw driver went through workshop ceiling,got a proper beating with rolled up Daily Mirror,but no burns to hands or feet,very odd.Best of it was,the engineer in charge of me said "Jonesy,your a bloody liability,your never survive,let alone make an engineer"
A few day's later boss asks him to go up the shop & extend the main lead on the bosses electric fire,
chatting away,Big John,fits a 13 amp plug on one end of a reel of three core mains lead,the reel of cable he's got his arm through the middle,like a doughnut,yep he then preceded to put the plug in the 13 amp socket,the boss said he shot up the corridor like a rocket,pulling out off the wall the 13 amp socket,the other ends of the cable were neatly through the metal center of the reel.
I repeated word for word what he said to me about survival,which made everyone laugh,followed by another beating,with a daily newspaper.