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Title: Acoustic Solutions 37" LCD TV - {[LCD37761F1080P]}
Post by: nemesis86 on December 14, 2010,10:56:11
I'm New, So first off, Hi guys and Girls!

I picked up the above tv (LCD37761F1080P) yesterday and its not working...
I did a bit of digging through your forum (Awesome by the way!) for some info and it looks like my ground work was well placed...

the situation is this - it turns on, I get the blue standby light but nothing more, the light will dim/flash when the remote is used or the side control buttons but it will not power on completely. Having looked through the forums there are a couple of Acoustic solutions with the same issue is there (It appears its the power supply, which is what i ASSUMED and where i started).

My Expertise is Xbox' and PS3's, im pretty handy with a soldering iron and a multimeter/ohmmeter but im stumped as to what to do... do i replace the PSU or repair it, if its a repair job where do i start?

Thanks in advance.

NeMeSiS86
Title: Re: Acoustic Solutions 37" LCD TV - {[LCD37761F1080P]}
Post by: Turnip on December 14, 2010,12:02:54
Hi Nemesis,

No files here but have that 'Vestel' feeling. Site has heaps on most 17PWxxx supplies. Which is yours  ?

All the best - Chris.
Title: Acoustic Solutions 37" LCD TV - {[LCD37761F1080P]}
Post by: nemesis86 on December 14, 2010,12:36:57
Thanks for the quick response Chris,
the Vestel feeling is about bang on, The number listed rings a bell from what i saw printed on the PSU Board.

 I am at work at the moment but i will update with the board numbers/psu numbers when i get home. if there are any Capacitors that have failed can i replace with normal off the shelf items from maplin or would i be better ordering from a specific place? (I know they are rated and carry different ohmage's/voltages etc. i'm just unsure as to where the best place to order from is lol)
Title: Re: Acoustic Solutions 37" LCD TV - {[LCD37761F1080P]}
Post by: Turnip on December 14, 2010,12:43:28
Hi,

Just give us that  17PW - we Quuqs will suggest the rest - possibly argue for months - Chris.
Title: Re: Acoustic Solutions 37" LCD TV - {[LCD37761F1080P]}
Post by: nemesis86 on December 14, 2010,14:01:20
Right, in through the door and upto my eyeballs already!

The Power Supply module is 17PW20.1 - thats the one you need i think... the capacitors are all uniform and dont look bulged at all  :dubbio:

As I said, I've done circuit work on xbox's and PS3's etc. but never a tv :dubbio:

Thanks again for your quick responses!
Title: Re: Acoustic Solutions 37" LCD TV - {[LCD37761F1080P]}
Post by: chrissie jones on December 15, 2010,03:12:07
send me a photo of power supply,just  mite av one.
Title: Re: Acoustic Solutions 37" LCD TV - {[LCD37761F1080P]}
Post by: Turnip on December 15, 2010,13:13:52
Hi Nem,

Have a little info - attached - Chris

Would first check those 2 x 15nf's (Top left under the heat sink - they usually bulge a bit and go open circuit)
Title: Re: Acoustic Solutions 37" LCD TV - {[LCD37761F1080P]}
Post by: nemesis86 on December 15, 2010,17:05:36
Thanks for all the info so far guys!

i haven't had anytime to do anything tonight but i will be opening the set tomorrow to get a picture of the supply unit and take a look at the suggested area.

Cheers!

Pete
 :c017:
Title: Re: Acoustic Solutions 37" LCD TV - {[LCD37761F1080P]}
Post by: Turnip on December 16, 2010,11:49:37
Hi Pete,

Have a piccy - caps outlined (rather small though )- Chris.
Title: Re: Acoustic Solutions 37" LCD TV - {[LCD37761F1080P]}
Post by: nemesis86 on December 16, 2010,14:35:39
Cheers Chris, thats wicked! Thats the same as mine i think!

I've attached a photo of the unit from inside the TV for every-one's viewing pleasure  :sign0085:
I'm on PS3 Duty at the minute  :yahoo: so i'll be about.

Thanks again!
Title: Re: Acoustic Solutions 37" LCD TV - {[LCD37761F1080P]}
Post by: chrissie jones on December 16, 2010,16:20:14
is it me or the bad photo.looks like 2 or 3 bulged caps, to the right of power supply.
Title: Re: Acoustic Solutions 37" LCD TV - {[LCD37761F1080P]}
Post by: nemesis86 on December 17, 2010,02:55:38
They all looked ok to me, I Will try and take a better picture, but you might be right so i'll check them again  :13:
Title: Re: Acoustic Solutions 37" LCD TV - {[LCD37761F1080P]}
Post by: sparky on December 17, 2010,04:25:42
hi
your right the caps look a bit bulged we spotted
dave
Title: Re: Acoustic Solutions 37" LCD TV - {[LCD37761F1080P]}
Post by: nemesis86 on December 17, 2010,12:06:12
Hi guys!

Would some one mine high-lighting the caps i need to check? I know its a bit cheeky but i think i need some help as this is out of my normal area of expertise  :sign0085:

I appreciate everyone's help.

Thank You!  :13:
Title: Re: Acoustic Solutions 37" LCD TV - {[LCD37761F1080P]}
Post by: Turnip on December 17, 2010,12:17:50
Hi Nem,

Generally with this P/S it's initially mains fuse failure and PFC troubles. You don't have this prob, so move on to those two 15nf caps and any round aluminium thingies with a bulgy top.

Quuq folks noticed - on a rather poor piccy - that you had at least three in that category - go solder - Chris

PS - a decent piccy, perhaps.
Title: Re: Acoustic Solutions 37" LCD TV - {[LCD37761F1080P]}
Post by: davenjax on December 17, 2010,12:27:20
hi nem i think you can get a full reliability kit for this psu from ohm supplies and charles hyde online the kit even tells you the component locations so you cant really go wrong .dave
Title: Re: Acoustic Solutions 37" LCD TV - {[LCD37761F1080P]}
Post by: Turnip on December 17, 2010,12:42:51
Hi D/J

I just love that sort'a confidence in our trade - bucks me no-end - Chris

Back to changing EY51's in projector tellies - worst thing was that oil - awful smelly, but cheap though these days, was only 2D per pint.
Title: Re: Acoustic Solutions 37" LCD TV - {[LCD37761F1080P]}
Post by: nemesis86 on December 17, 2010,14:07:00
Ok, Hopefully these will help... Thanks again everyone
Title: Re: Acoustic Solutions 37" LCD TV - {[LCD37761F1080P]}
Post by: davenjax on December 17, 2010,17:54:06
hey chris if i remember correctly that oil was corrosive too seen many a philips go south due to leaks .was talkin to our projectionist about the very same thing today funny enough .dave
Title: Re: Acoustic Solutions 37" LCD TV - {[LCD37761F1080P]}
Post by: brainstorm on December 18, 2010,07:21:14
Hi

Just put your finger on the top of the capacitors and and you will feel the bulging top and if i was you I would change the two blue caps that chris pointed out. I have also had the mains smoother going open circuit as well

Brian
Title: Re: Acoustic Solutions 37" LCD TV - {[LCD37761F1080P]}
Post by: Turnip on December 18, 2010,12:16:46
Hi Nem,

Some of them caps looked bulgy when piccied overhead, but sideways with extra salad cream -well, not so sure.

As Brian says, the main (big black thing in top middle) capacitor can be a prob, can be dry jointed to the board, but it usually pops mains fuse and PFC section when O/C.

Give us a pic from above in decent light and without the salad cream - we're hungry and easily deflected from telly mending - Chris.
Title: Re: Acoustic Solutions 37" LCD TV - {[LCD37761F1080P]}
Post by: chrissie jones on December 18, 2010,12:34:09
allways had problems with thease brown /gold caps. change them.

Title: Re: Acoustic Solutions 37" LCD TV - {[LCD37761F1080P]}
Post by: nemesis86 on December 24, 2010,07:30:12
Thanks for your input so far Gents,

My 17PW20.1 Repair/Reliability kit turned up this morning so i'll replace my soldering iron tip when i get home, and get soldering and post some results.

Again, Thanks guys!

 :c017:
Title: Re: Acoustic Solutions 37" LCD TV - {[LCD37761F1080P]}
Post by: chrissie jones on December 24, 2010,08:20:34
good luck. :thumbup:
Title: Re: Acoustic Solutions 37" LCD TV - {[LCD37761F1080P]}
Post by: nemesis86 on December 28, 2010,07:55:50
So...
the repair kit went in - now the Set's still the same... i think my next move is to try those brown/gold caps as suggested... any other ideas?
Title: Re: Acoustic Solutions 37" LCD TV - {[LCD37761F1080P]}
Post by: sinclairtv on December 28, 2010,08:27:49
Im at the stage where its quicker to bite the bullet and change any PSU beginning with 17PW..I picked one up online for just over £24 and delivered within 4 days just before Xmas. I know its not repairing to component level but at least you can then try to repair the board at your leisure.
Title: Re: Acoustic Solutions 37" LCD TV - {[LCD37761F1080P]}
Post by: nemesis86 on December 29, 2010,10:32:29
Having now changed the brown/gold caps aswell the TV is the same... The main black Capacitor (C819?) top is domed and flexes under pressure... do i try this next or would i better finding a replacement PSU? ive checked the board base and i cant find any shorts there  :sign0085:
Title: Re: Acoustic Solutions 37" LCD TV - {[LCD37761F1080P]}
Post by: davenjax on December 29, 2010,13:10:54
that sounds like the smoothing cap nem may be worth sourcing the psu however i have come a cropper before and resorted to obtaining a new psu to find out that the issue was on the main panel ?? have you been able to measure the voltages coming from the psu ?
Title: Re: Acoustic Solutions 37" LCD TV - {[LCD37761F1080P]}
Post by: nemesis86 on November 24, 2011,13:42:11
well - i put this away and forgot about it - then the Mrs' spotted it hidden in the back of the wardrobe  :s_laugh:

Have changed main smoothing cap - installed repair kit and changed some Cap's that weren't in the kit!

still sitting there with a nice BRIGHT BLUE LED !!!

no response from any side buttons - dont know if the led should flash on buttons being pressed but it does nothing - dont have a bloody remote either :(
Title: Re: Acoustic Solutions 37" LCD TV - {[LCD37761F1080P]}
Post by: sparky on November 24, 2011,16:19:28
hi
it could stuck on child lock but you need remote
dave