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Title: Stuck in Standby - 17PW20 V2 (260707) PSU
Post by: StormyC on September 12, 2011,09:44:27
Hi folks,  :sign0144: im hoping for a little assistance.

I have an Acoustic solutions TV LCD32761HDF stuck in standby, solid standby light.  After some searching it looks like its the 17PW20 V2 PSU that is at fault.  Ive removed the board and can see a 100u 50v capacitor (C835) that has a bulge so i need to replace that, however, what i dont know is should i replace anything else prior to testing after i replace C835... Any advice on what to test (and how) would be greatly appreciated.

Incidentally, ive taken a reading accross the large capcitor C819 and its 320v but the circuit diagram indicates 400v - does this indicate somthing else is wrong?

Many thanks..
Title: Re: Stuck in Standby - 17PW20 V2 (260707) PSU
Post by: Ohm Supplies on September 12, 2011,11:09:35
"After some searching it looks like its the 17PW20 V2 PSU that is at fault."

Do you mean you serched for the psu or searched for the fault?

regards
ANdy
Title: Re: Stuck in Standby - 17PW20 V2 (260707) PSU
Post by: StormyC on September 12, 2011,13:33:56
I did a search on the internet for the common cause of this fault. So I'm assuming the faulty part is going to be the psu. I did think that the bulging capacitor was the give away.... Am I wrong.should I look else where...?
Title: Re: Stuck in Standby - 17PW20 V2 (260707) PSU
Post by: digitech1962 on September 12, 2011,14:44:37
would get psu repair kit from ohm supplies  or Charles Hyde but fault can be AV board good luck Dave.
Title: Re: Stuck in Standby - 17PW20 V2 (260707) PSU
Post by: jimca007 on September 13, 2011,19:29:28
had them as low as 300v at the smoothing block and they've still run the voltage at the smoothing block i assume will be proportional to the ac input voltage . stick a new cap in and check for the relative output voltages if you've a diagram it'll show how much and where about the only good thing with most vestel psu's is you usually get away with not having to load them to test them... good luck SMPS's can be a pig but you might well be lucky
Title: Re: Stuck in Standby - 17PW20 V2 (260707) PSU
Post by: chrissie jones on September 14, 2011,02:13:02
have you checked the blue cap c877/878..15nf.630v.normely they buldged on the sides,so you need to take them out to check..
Title: Re: Stuck in Standby - 17PW20 V2 (260707) PSU
Post by: StormyC on September 19, 2011,07:35:29
Thanks very much for the replies.

Just looking at those blue caps you mention - they look fine - just the C835 that looks bad.  When I get the chance I will replace it and see what happens. (working all hours atm - even at work now!).

Again thanks all.
Title: Re: Stuck in Standby - 17PW20 V2 (260707) PSU
Post by: StormyC on November 22, 2011,07:26:37
A quick Question regarding the circuit for the power supply.

The pin outs - so Im sure of what im testing - pins for PL801 1 thru 5 are 24V and 6-10 are ground?

Very much a novice so any help appreciated.
Title: Re: Stuck in Standby - 17PW20 V2 (260707) PSU
Post by: Bambooz on November 22, 2011,07:28:59
Yep. They just used multiple thin wires instead of one large one to deliver the same amount of current.
Title: Re: Stuck in Standby - 17PW20 V2 (260707) PSU
Post by: StormyC on December 04, 2011,14:26:04
Me again....

OK, as the power supply had that visibly bad cap I replaced it but I wasnt able to get anything out of the 5v pin(s) so instead of paying £25 ish for the kit i went ahead and bought a new power supply, the exact model, 17PW20 V2 (£35), popped that in but still have the exact same fault  :41:.

Im confidant that the new power supply is working fine as I was able to get all the readings correct.....  I think it was because of my noobness that didnt test the old one properly....

OK the BIG question: Is this TV a scrapper, is there somthing else easy to check or should I take it to a pro?

 :c017:

Title: Re: Stuck in Standby - 17PW20 V2 (260707) PSU
Post by: jimca007 on December 04, 2011,15:00:45
what main boards in it mate sometimes the vestel 's suffer from processor failure so could weel be that or a duff eeprom give us the number and ideally a pic and maybe me or one of the other similar old farts ( no offense Chris ! ) will have one you can try for p&P cheers
Title: Re: Stuck in Standby - 17PW20 V2 (260707) PSU
Post by: StormyC on December 05, 2011,04:06:40
 :13:

Thanks!!

I will do that later today, would be nice not to shell out for brand new TV...
Title: Re: Stuck in Standby - 17PW20 V2 (260707) PSU
Post by: StormyC on December 05, 2011,07:50:42
Pictures, as promised...

Hoping you can help...
Title: Re: Stuck in Standby - 17PW20 V2 (260707) PSU
Post by: Turnip on December 05, 2011,12:27:46
Hi Jimca,

No offense - But just a wee phart (You can never trust 'em, these days) - Chris
Title: Re: Stuck in Standby - 17PW20 V2 (260707) PSU
Post by: jimca007 on December 05, 2011,14:49:03
17MB22-2 Pcb Main (32 inch) Hitachi L32HP01U .....
CHS Part No.: 12029ZW
Availability: 7-14 Days
£ 238.82

ouch!
I'll have a look later see if i've got one cheers
Title: Re: Stuck in Standby - 17PW20 V2 (260707) PSU
Post by: jimca007 on December 05, 2011,16:39:11
Hi I found one which I think looks pretty much the same as yours, I cant guarantee its providence but then its unlikely I'd have kept it if it was goosed double check this is it and if you want it pop a tenner in my pay pal and i'll post it off to you.
Title: Re: Stuck in Standby - 17PW20 V2 (260707) PSU
Post by: StormyC on December 06, 2011,06:37:44
Hey jimca007,

Id love to give that a go.

Please see your private messages.

:c017:
Title: Re: Stuck in Standby - 17PW20 V2 (260707) PSU
Post by: StormyC on December 06, 2011,06:46:49
Just noticed, there is a differance, my board doesnt have a PC-in socket...

Can't see this being too much of a problem can you? - there is space for it, i just have to cut out the slot....

Thanks again for your help!
Title: Re: Stuck in Standby - 17PW20 V2 (260707) PSU
Post by: jimca007 on December 06, 2011,06:51:17
I've got another one without a D-SUB socket you want that one instead?
Title: Re: Stuck in Standby - 17PW20 V2 (260707) PSU
Post by: StormyC on December 06, 2011,08:01:26
I will leave it to you which ever you think best. ie the one most likely to work. *grins*

I've tried to deposit the £10.00 but cant seem to be able to without creating a paypal account, not something I want to do.  Can send driect to account if you could provide info (via pm ofc)

Many thanks, fingers crossed this will do the trick...

Title: Re: Stuck in Standby - 17PW20 V2 (260707) PSU
Post by: StormyC on December 13, 2011,04:03:03
Hey jimca007,

Did you post that board?  Not recieved it as yet, as its been a week getting a little concerened..

Can you let me know when you posted it please?

Many thanks.
Title: Re: Stuck in Standby - 17PW20 V2 (260707) PSU
Post by: jimca007 on December 13, 2011,08:19:08
hi mate spoke to the secretary ( otherwise known as the wife ! ) she told me she hadnt been able to post it till friday so I apologise for the delay and shes been given a good spanking ! :33:
Title: Re: Stuck in Standby - 17PW20 V2 (260707) PSU
Post by: StormyC on December 20, 2011,16:29:04
Hey jimca007

Still not arrived Jim, how was it posted, any proof of postage, or do i seek a refund?

All the  best.
Title: Re: Stuck in Standby - 17PW20 V2 (260707) PSU
Post by: E Parton on December 20, 2011,17:53:49
I'd suspect the postal system which is known to grind to a bit of a halt with regards to parcels ...this close to Christmas ..
Jim is as good as his word ...
If he posted it ...it will come ...
..almost sounds like a line from field of dreams  :wink1:
rgds
Evan
Title: Re: Stuck in Standby - 17PW20 V2 (260707) PSU
Post by: t1412 on December 21, 2011,04:51:02
i've got 1 pm me

shaun 
Title: Re: Stuck in Standby - 17PW20 V2 (260707) PSU
Post by: StormyC on December 22, 2011,10:38:55
Certainly don't doubt his word Evan and yea, Thought it might be the postal system, which is why I gave it 7+ days before griping again...

I wouldn't be so pushy since the cost or the board is huge and Jim is letting me test it via replacemet for so little....  However, if the TV isn't repaired a new one will be purchased shortly so its owner can play new games etc. on his new PS3....Christmas - 'Baaa humbug'....

So it will all be a waste if the part doesn't arrive soon..

Any info Jim?
Title: Re: Stuck in Standby - 17PW20 V2 (260707) PSU
Post by: StormyC on January 01, 2012,07:31:14
Jim, its still a no show....

I will get the kind person that helped me send the money to you to start the refund procedure...
Title: Re: Stuck in Standby - 17PW20 V2 (260707) PSU
Post by: StormyC on January 11, 2012,16:55:50
Refund procedure started... dispute logged with paypal.

Shame really...
Title: Re: Stuck in Standby - 17PW20 V2 (260707) PSU
Post by: StormyC on January 25, 2012,08:29:14
Bump :dubbio: