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Title: Philips 42pf76210 Turns straight back off
Post by: scooby-doo on October 22, 2011,07:51:54
Anyone come across a philips 42pf76210 keeps turning itself straight back off when you turn it on.

Thanks in advance for any help
Title: Re: Philips 42pf76210 Turns straight back off
Post by: scooby-doo on October 22, 2011,09:20:13
Sorry to add the led is blinking 1 long flash followed by 2 quick flashes

If that helps
Title: Re: Philips 42pf76210 Turns straight back off
Post by: t1412 on October 23, 2011,04:49:24
hi mate,i think you may need a repair kit look on ebay

regards
shaun 
Title: Re: Philips 42pf76210 Turns straight back off
Post by: scooby-doo on October 23, 2011,05:48:06
I cant find a repair kit on Ebay and it doesnt look like Andy (Ohm Supplies) has got one too:-(

Oh and to add I have put the wrong model number it is 42pf7621d/10

I cant find anywhere on the net what the blinking standby light stands for. And to top it off I cant find a free service manual for it either.

And to put the icing on the cake this dam TV gave me a right belt when I removed the power board with no ac connected. I let it discharge for a good few hours too.
Title: Re: Philips 42pf76210 Turns straight back off
Post by: scooby-doo on October 23, 2011,14:03:15
Dug a little deeper and found that the standby light flashing is 1 long flash =10 then you add the 2 short blinks which =

12 = Histogram (YUV) (IC 7770) error

Does this sound about right for a philips TV, and would this part need replacing or is it possible to short a couple of the pins to reset like in the samsungs

Thanks

Title: Re: Philips 42pf76210 Turns straight back off
Post by: scooby-doo on October 25, 2011,06:39:33
Anyone please help on this one...ANDY????
Title: Re: Philips 42pf76210 Turns straight back off
Post by: d.e.r on November 01, 2011,05:37:43
I am new here so hi to everyone.

Scooby..Is this a Plasma or LCD????

The chassis you are working on is a BJ3.0E and the blinking lights on this model is a 12v fault not a histogram, knowing Philips it will be a software issue not a component failure, I had the same TV with the same fault and I gave up. That is probably why you cannot get a repair kit.
If you wanted the service manual I can send it to you but must warn you that the 42pf is not fully covered in it, you have to cross refer to another service manual, and it will make it as clear as mud, Philips service manuals are not exactly the easiest to understand.

Someone may prove me wrong and say "its this", but I really do think you will be chasing a fault that may be near on impossible to find, unless you want to start replacing boards to repair.

Electric shocks, treat TV's with the respect they deserve, they can kill you, I can probably vouch for most on here, we have all had a shock, once bitten twice shy, the voltages/currents in TV's go way beyond the safe working load of humans, just be very careful when playing with TV's with the back removed
Title: Re: Philips 42pf76210 Turns straight back off
Post by: tv tony on November 01, 2011,09:48:20
Welcome d.e.r., not the old der rentals are you? not that scooby is a newbie here but i reinforce your feelings on here. i go back to the old thorn 950.s.
lethal they are, im here just!
Please post again, and welcome to the forum.
tony walker
Title: Re: Philips 42pf76210 Turns straight back off
Post by: d.e.r on November 01, 2011,10:00:31
Thanks Tony, no Im not from DER rentals.

Not one of Philips biggest fans, personally cant fault the components compared to most but the schematics and software issues are just arrrrgggghhhh.

My best electric shock was off an old CRT instantly turned my thumbnail black and it bloody hurt
Title: Re: Philips 42pf76210 Turns straight back off
Post by: tv tony on November 01, 2011,10:30:25
Think ill start a new post, my worst was from a microwave, secondary of the transformer straight across my chest, it dropped me and i shook for days, i shudder now.
Title: Re: Philips 42pf76210 Turns straight back off
Post by: tv tony on November 01, 2011,10:31:40
sorry, im off topic, sorry everyone
Title: Re: Philips 42pf76210 Turns straight back off
Post by: Ohm Supplies on November 03, 2011,07:06:38
Hello,

Sorry, I've not gone, we're just very pushed for time. I've also had a few engineers point out that some of the advice given on here is better than some people pay for and can help put some engineers out of business, again, off topic. I do understand though that engineers (including me) need help,

What the hell does a histogram have to do with the set?

Up and off sounds liek the inverter, (that would make it an LCD :) ) what the number form the board.

Sorry I've been away, glad that someone noticed :))

regards
ANdy
Title: Re: Philips 42pf76210 Turns straight back off
Post by: scooby-doo on November 03, 2011,09:00:42
Hi Andy

Thanks, yes sorry my mistake it is a LCD tv
When I said powers up and then off again you can just hear the relay click 2 seconds later the blinking standby light comes on 1 long 2 short.
Histogram..I was searching around the net and this is all I could find, managed to get the service manual and like der says it does point to a 12v from the error code section....it also said something about shorting out sgm pins on the SSB to override the 8v protection circuit..but wont work when there is a standby fault..I tried it anyway and it was right it didnt make no difference.
Sorry for sounding dumb but if it is saying a 12v supply fault why would the fault be with the inverters?

The boards in the TV are as follows
PSU=3104 303 39584
Standby/Audio=3104 328 48191
SSB=3104 328 47793
Master inv=6632L 0151a
slave=6632L 0152a


Thanks  again in advance
Title: Re: Philips 42pf76210 Turns straight back off
Post by: Ohm Supplies on November 04, 2011,03:45:03
“a histogram is a graphical representation showing a visual impression of the distribution of data”
Not sure how that is relevant to a tv, but its better than what I thought it was (a kind of operation, that would be a hysterectomy, Doh).

I would be amazed however, if the inverters in this set worked off 12v, 24v possibly??? With this in mind I’d ignore most of the internet as soon you’ll find a post about the capacitors causing the fault or possibly the fuse.

Best advise would be check you have 24v at switch on.
Remove both inverters and check for shorts against each other (they will be a similar design. I’d especially check the fets, controller ic (probably has 32 legs or so.) also the caps and fuse, DOH!!!!! (OK, best not to ignore the internet then :s_laugh:

Any problems, just ask and I’ll be as much help as I can,
Best regards
Andy
Title: Re: Philips 42pf76210 Turns straight back off
Post by: sparky on November 05, 2011,05:13:04
hi
histogram is what you get from some one who
no's about history  :s_laugh:
dave
Title: Re: Philips 42pf76210 Turns straight back off
Post by: scooby-doo on November 05, 2011,12:52:27
Cheers Andy

The TV does not stay on long enough to get any voltages...I cant get anything out of it it just clicks on and back off. Then starts the flashing sequence.
Title: Re: Philips 42pf76210 Turns straight back off
Post by: Ohm Supplies on November 05, 2011,14:43:11
Have you checked for shorts using the master & slave as your diagram?

Title: Re: Philips 42pf76210 Turns straight back off
Post by: scooby-doo on November 05, 2011,16:57:08
Yes mate checked but cant find a sc anywhere.

The only time when I can get a different reaction from the TV is when I shorted out the ssb to update the software with CompAir...(Which i havent got) and both the green and Red led illuminate and stay illumianted...it does say in the service manual not to leave it shorted for 2 long. apart from that I am still stuck