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 the Tosh is doing my head in, the panel is OK, its something on the settings i think? Have you ever wondered how far you could chuck a 20" paperweight  

 ?   The other one i have with AUO panel is a superb picture, BUT i cant access any menus, coz there is no OSD/remote/tuning functions etc.... so its like a an old Fergie 30 years ago  :rofl: get up to turn it on/off and turn sound down....  The thing is fine by using the SKY remote, to change on the box.... etc.....
Anybody want a CMO Panel for a 100% WORKING 17MB08P (WL) board!!!   I got a Cello from the Tip that was as dead as a Dodo, and even thats miles better  

 after replacing capacitors!!!! and splitting the screen in two to get the s*** out!!! oh joy!!! 
Carol  :blum: