Thanks Bruce, I was thinking firmware issue.... they sure don't make em' like they used to do, think their idea is if it 'conks' out you 'clod it or'e next door' and go buy a new one, far too many made under license these day's whose name on the telly isn't recognised..... "not one of our telly's guv, sorry can't help ya".
Not so bothered about the logo as long as telly works, no naughty names though....!
Dave