thankyou brian for posting them will have a good look at them much appretiated thankyou

i think the Haniel Charis board might for the tv,s 1080p processing.
the one thing that sill baffles me is that you get a full tv picture on lcd ( mirror image at bottom & black lines in middle of lcd) but you can still see normal tv ok when you switch av to normal tv channels but blank when either on av1 /2 /component/hdmi.
also blank when freeview is pressed ( but shows freeview on 2nd tv connected to scart)
surely if the t-con was gone then it would not get any sort of full tv picture on normal tv channels ?

as you can see from picture below theres thin black lines in middle of screen ( sometimes alot less lines) and theres a mirror image of picture at bottom of screen. so the t-con is recieving a signal on normal tv?
might be wrong, just trying to rule out possibilitys.