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Re: Philips 26pfl5522
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2012,03:19:47 »
panasonic is the maker
fm is the series
these are good low esr caps

all i use nowdays

as some unit will only work with low esr caps if you fit standard caps in there place unit may not work or give short life
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Re: Philips 26pfl5522
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2012,03:19:47 »

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Re: Philips 26pfl5522
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2012,05:50:03 »
hi
you read his post you will find psu working no fault when
connected to another tv just check
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Re: Philips 26pfl5522
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2012,09:02:17 »
Hi,
The usual cause of this effect is either faulty electrolytic capacitors, on the signal PCB,
or the image processing IC, (this is the IC thats feeds it outputs to the LVDS cable).
Try using the hairdrier, but shield various parts of the PCB with a piece of card, trying
to localise where the heat has the most effect.
Check the LT supply voltages when the fault is evident, and again when it clears.
If you have a 'scope, also check for noise on the LT lines.
Regards,
John.

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« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2012,09:02:17 »

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Re: Philips 26pfl5522
« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2012,12:57:30 »
Hi,
The usual cause of this effect is either faulty electrolytic capacitors, on the signal PCB,
or the image processing IC, (this is the IC thats feeds it outputs to the LVDS cable).
Try using the hairdrier, but shield various parts of the PCB with a piece of card, trying
to localise where the heat has the most effect.
Check the LT supply voltages when the fault is evident, and again when it clears.
If you have a 'scope, also check for noise on the LT lines.
Regards,
John.

I have noticed that using a hair dryer to warm the internals reduces the time taken to turn on to 3-5 minutes, from 20-30. Will definitely try the suggested method to localise the fault. Thanks.

By the way, I just changed all the aluminium capacitors on the PSU to no effect.

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Re: Philips 26pfl5522
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2012,06:35:14 »
Well this is weird. I have tried the method suggested watteu, using a hair dryer to warm separate parts of the boards to localise the fault. And while heating the area around the video processor and slightly below it, the video came on. What is unusual, is that even after being turned off for more than 12 hours, the tv turned on fine, with only a slight brightness flicker on the top half of the screen for the first minute or so.

I'll be leaving the tv as it is until it stops working again, as I don't have any means to diagnose it while it's working. Although if anyone can offer any insight into what happened, please share.

Thank you, everyone, for being a huge help.  :c017:

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Re: Philips 26pfl5522
« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2012,12:09:10 »
When you say video processor do you mean the T-CON?

The T-CON is the small board situated at the center top in your picture with the foil tape on it and has the cable labelled LVDS running to it.

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« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2012,12:09:10 »

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Re: Philips 26pfl5522
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2012,06:26:36 »
got boards for sale for this model...

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Re: Philips 26pfl5522
« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2012,08:29:26 »
Hello again,

I come back for your help again with the same TV. The problem is still unsolved as I didn't have a chance to replace the t-con LVDS V260B1-C03 board (however I found that warming up the area around the t-con board with a hair dryer brings up the picture in a minute or less), until now. I've picked up a replacement board and now I'm worried the TV might be dead.  :17:

After installing the replacement board and powering on the set for a test the picture was very dark, only the shapes of menus could be made out (didn't have any source connected). After maybe 30 seconds, the picture started to clear up, but i noticed a thin pillar of white smoke rising from the very top. Power was immediately unplugged and the TV was torn down, again, to find the source. Upon inspection I discovered that two components on what I assume is the LCD controller (long, narrow PCB, sits on top of the lcd, model no. V260B1-X03) have failed. Here is a picture:



The failed components marked in red. Sorry for the poor quality, only have a phone camera. Not sure which markings around are relevant to the components. The components seem to have some numbers printed on them, but I can't make them out since they are darkened by the failure.

Now I have a few questions that I hope you can help me find an answer to. What exactly are these little components? Could they have been causing the original problem? If not, could a faulty replacement board cause these to fail? If for whatever reason the components can't be replaced, can the whole board be replaced? A google search with the model name does not turn up anything useful and the service manual I have does not cover this board.

For now I am left wondering if I killed the TV and looking forward to any replies.
Thanks.
Paulius

Edit: After more searching it seems that those are SMD fuses that failed. Anyone know what the specs for these fuses are?
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Re: Philips 26pfl5522
« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2012,09:21:19 »
they look like decoupling caps, remove them and try the set again, you may find it works if the fuse hasnt failed
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Re: Philips 26pfl5522
« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2012,09:41:41 »
they look like decoupling caps, remove them and try the set again, you may find it works if the fuse hasnt failed

Just did a google search on what a decoupling capacitor is as I've never heard of them before. From the few pictures that turned up they all seem to have a brown-ish centre, like the ones immediately to the right of the circled ones. The components that failed look more like SMD's, the centre seem to have been black even before they got cooked.. But then again I have no real experience with things like these and am only comparing to similar pictures found on google.

Either way I guess there is nothing to loose by removing them, if they are SMD's, the circuit is already open and there will be no change. If they are decoupling caps, it might just work again. Did I understand this correctly?

Thanks.
Paulius

Edit: Tried to put it together as it is. Good news - it works. Bad news - no colour blue. Still hoping to fix it if anyone can identify the components needed.

Edit[2]: Might be wrong about a missing colour, now it looks like a negative photo. Can this be changed back?

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Re: Philips 26pfl5522
« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2012,15:43:04 »
Would anyone know where to find a schematic of the V260B1-X03 (MS35-D015438) board?
The two dead components are SMD resistors and at the moment both are at around 22 Ohm. It seems like originally they had a higher resistance, but after going up in smoke the numbers on them are unreadable. They are marked R4 and R9 on the board itself.

Or maybe someone has a V260B1-L03 Rev. C2 LCD panel and could check the values of these resistors?

Thanks.
Paulius

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Re: Philips 26pfl5522
« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2012,15:43:04 »

 

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